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Deciding between a PC and a Mac???
This is what i found today at Microsoft.com, I was reading it and honestly very interesting article...if you
want to check it out by yourself please click on the link below, and please NO fanboys allowed.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/compare/pc-vs-mac.aspx
What do you think???
want to check it out by yourself please click on the link below, and please NO fanboys allowed.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/compare/pc-vs-mac.aspx
What do you think???
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Permalink Reply by implying implications on -
FUCKING SAGE!!!!!!!!
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Permalink Reply by Franky Juarez on -
SAGE????
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Permalink Reply by implying implications on
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i knew you'd ask, so the word sage is a link to its definition
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Permalink Reply by Franky Juarez on
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I'm still using Windows XP....im getting a Mac Book Pro soon!!! :) Mac and PC for ever ever and ever!!!! :)
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Permalink Reply by Mad Max on -
I'd say 2000 was the best version of Windows ever. It's the last thoroughbred and pure version of Windows before they mashed it all together with the consumer side of things that was Windows 98, that gave us XP. 2k was pure NT, 98 was pure DOS, they mashed two very different code bases together and gave us XP, which is why it's so inconsistent in UI and the way certain things work.
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Permalink Reply by Mad Max on
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I wasn't saying 2000 was superior, just I believed it to be far more "pure". It was without bloat and was made for the business market and suited it very well. XP merged the business and consumer markets together and we got all the pro's and cons that brings lol. I loved XP, but it had a habit of throwing hissy fits now and then, especially on more modern hardware.
I like Windows 7 though, but it isn't my favourite so far as OS's go as I'm sure you know lol. It's by far the best version of Windows I've used though, they did a cracking job with it. I can't remember how many bug/feedback reports I sent during the beta but I'm happy to say a huge chunk of those issues were resolved in the final version.
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Permalink Reply by carl jenkins on -
At home I have both a Mac and a PC. I have been a Windows tech since the early 90's. I tell people that Windows pays the bills but the Mac lets me be productive.
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Permalink Reply by iЛенин on -
Having fun: enjoy movies,games. Macs are ready too, actually Mac os will boot up faster than windows on the same machine. So a mac is more "readyer" than a pc.
Simplicity: they just work? until a driver update comes out and you'll need to install it and only god knows if it'll work 100%
Working hard: pcs are mainstream in business because of the price. A photography company uses a mac, a movie company uses a mac. Office king of companies don't need Mac os or quality, so why not to buy a pc?
Like you can't work on a mac :$
Sharing: they won't help you share stuff, you have to create a home group and enter a really strong passcode. With a mac you just click the network tab and you are sharing
Compatibility: "music players, phones, cameras, and other devices" all these devices when you plug them in a usb port they activate their "mass storage device" kind of mode, basically the act like a memory stick. So yeah, a memory stick will work on windows, as long as the drivers are available. Try copying files on an ipod without itunes (you can with other software, illegality)
Choice: some people like having choices, but a mac....come on man, can you compare the clean design of a mac with of those pcs? Pc companies are actually copying design keys from Macs.
These words are coming from a custom pc builder,i spent thousands of dollars on my machine and i love it. I like to tweak things, having 100% control of my computer. But when I wanna go mobile, a Mac book Pro is the only choice for me.
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Permalink Reply by Xothimty on -
There's a huge issue with what you just said: it's opinion. I have a feeling that you knew this was all opinion going in, but the tone of your post makes it seem like what you're saying are facts.
Are you saying that Macs aren't without their issues with hardware? That's how it came off. Drivers make hardware work on PCs, but I'm sure there's an equivalent piece of software for hardware on Macs. For my digital camera, for instance, I just need to plug it into my PC and I'm good to go. It isn't that simple on a Mac. With lower-end digital cameras, you probably won't have any issues, but when you have a high-end one like mine, it isn't as simple. Plus, iPhoto is such a huge hassle to deal with. Why can't I just drag my photos over and be done with it? Why can't I put them into a folder I created specifically?
You can work on a Mac. This part of the site was pretty insulting. You can buy Microsoft Office 2008 for Macs if you really want it. PCs are not without issues here, either. People run into issues with Microsoft Works, Microsoft Office 2003, 2007, and now 2010. These software suites are not exactly compatible with each other. I agree with you on this front.
Sorry, but I find HomeGroups far, far easier to use and setup than Mac Networks. You just need to go into your network manager, create a HomeGroup, and then give the password. This allows you to share documents, pictures, videos, and printers without having to manually set up each thing one-by-one. Macs have never been good with networking. IT people have always told me how much of a headache it is to work with Macs. Plus, Macs slow down greatly once they are networked, while PC performance remains the same. They don't like being networked and I'm surprised Apple never fixed this issue. Every time we had to network a Mac to another one at work, it was a headache, often taking around 15-20 minutes to properly set it up. With Windows 7, it's just a few seconds. How can you even compare that? Also, with Windows 7, once you're part of a HomeGroup, you're part of it forever until you decide to remove yourself. You don't have to manually reconnect each time you start up the system. Best part of all, anyone can do it. You don't have to go through all of these complicated menus to network yourself with a printer. The ability to print without being directly connected to the printer at home is amazing to me. I only ever saw this at school or work and anyone can do it now.
I'm not sure if you were just trying to be funny with your "choice" addition. It was unnecessary, though. It just so happens, though, that this is something that Mac users say all the time. It's a matter of preference, honestly. You say Macs are "clean," okay, I guess they are. I say they're "boring." I personally laughed when I saw HP's ENVY. Why would I be envious of such an ugly thing? Mac Book Pros have the worst designs for a laptop. Who would want to copy it? Sorry, but practicality should be above looks. Anything labor-intensive on a Mac Book Pro is going to cause overheating. This is common issue with them. Why? Their chassis is not designed for good airflow, they lay flat on the surface, they're too thin, and their fans--or lack there of--are tiny. All of these things make Mac Book Pros HOT. My laptop has feet that keep it off the surface its on, the feet in the back are higher than in the front, which makes the hot air in the chassis flow to the back and then go out the fans, and it's thicker to have better airflow. Even if what you say is true, I'd prefer my laptop stay cool than only look cool before it burst into flames. Again, it's only a preference thing. I personally think Macs look bland and boring.
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Permalink Reply by iЛенин on
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Mac book Pros have the worst design of a laptop? i'm sorry dude but if mess turns you on ,ok.
Hmm, dell, sony, hp are copying the mac book pros, if you want proof just ask for it.
Just for the record, i use windows 7, i know what a homegroup is. thing is, you have to have windows 7, can't use homegroups on xp or vista.
And the thing with the camera... you can drag and drop your photos, you just have never used a mac before.
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Permalink Reply by Xothimty on
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No, I've used Macs. I'm not as familiar with Macs, though. If you say there's an easier way to import photos from a digital camera, then I'll believe you. I probably missed something. Getting so defensive and calling my intelligence into question was a bit uncalled for.
I never said Mac Book Pros have "the worst" design. I said that it isn't efficient for cooling. I don't care if other companies are "copying it," it doesn't make it a practical design; it just makes it popular. They're not the same thing.
Also, just because HomeGroup is a new feature to Windows 7, that means it can just be disregarded? Sorry, but that's not how the real world works. The current Windows operating system is not XP or even Vista, so comparing Mac OS X Snow Leopard to those systems is not fair.
You're making a lot of assumptions about me. If you read my post carefully, you will understand that I broke your thoughts down objectively. You should think about the intentions of others before getting so worked up. I'm not unreasonable nor will I submit to the "you're either with me or against me" mentality.
Unlike you, I started my post by saying that it was all MY PERSONAL OPINION. I prefer function over design when it comes to computers, sue me. Not everyone is like that, though, and I understand that. This entire topic is about opinion. What I find easier to use, others might not. Likewise, the features you find easy to use on Mac OS X, others--like myself--might not find as simple.
Arguing about opinion is a losing battle for both sides. The fact that we even think there are sides is silly. There might come a day when I'll prefer a Mac OS over Windows. If that day comes, I won't feel like I betrayed a cause or a group of allies. I'll feel confident that after I weighed the options, I drew a conclusion that favored the Mac and I'll stand by that decision.
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Permalink Reply by Mad Max on
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How can you get easier at importing images than iPhoto/Aperture opening up and then clicking "Import"? The way you explained some things makes it evident you haven't used a Mac very much. You can drag the files into a folder if you want to as well if you really want to, but importing to iPhoto and similar allows greater control. It doesn't matter where the files are then, you can still access them (and edit them non destructively too). By your own admission you're not as used to them as Windows, which is fine, most people aren't, but to bring Windows paradigms of doing things to a totally different platform is rather ignorant.
I personally prefer the Mac way to Windows, and I've been using Windows for well over a decade. Macs are much easier to set most things up. Especially printers. On a Mac it's a case of going to printers and fax, add new, then it finds it on your network and you add it, job done. On Windows you have to go through a bunch of other menu's and steps to achieve this.
Networking on a Mac is simple too. When I walk into work which is all PC's and my Mac automatically connects to the WiFi, it sees every single Windows machine on said network. I can connect to every single Windows machine on said network too. I don't have to do ANYTHING manually apart from enter a username and password, and that's only if I don't tell keychain to remember it (which I don't for security reasons).
Non of the Windows machines can see the Mac. This is where the issues begin. It's easy networking Macs, it's a pain networking Macs with Windows, or should I say Windows with Macs. And yes, all of these machines are running Windows 7, all fully updated.
So far as MacBook Pro's and heat go. Yes they get hot, but I've yet to have mine actually overheat or show any signs of performance degradation because of it. They rarely get hot enough to touch though, they're more than comfortable temperatures at least in my experience. Remember, the entire machine is a lump of metal, it acts as a huge heatsink. It does this well. I'd rather the body get warm and spread the heat throughout the rest of it than have the heat remain inside or become localised in one spot of the body and fry the components like it'd do were it made of plastic. Plus, it only ever seems to get very hot when doing very hard drive intensive work like installing software or securely deleting files. Gaming is a given, but they make any machine get toasty, not that I ever use my Mac (or PC for that matter) for gaming much these days.
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