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Hi everyone,
I'm new and this may be a dumb question but here it goes anyway.
Is it possible for me to start my own personal ISP?
This is my situation... I live in a small town and we only have one ISP provider who not only price gouges us ( https://www.azci.net/order.htm )and gives us crappy service, but he also moniters what we do on the internet. I have actually recieved phone calls in the middle of the night from this man threatening to shut me down if I didn't stop viewing the page I was viewing on the internet. Let's just say he's rather "conservative".
Right now I'm paying $50 per month for download speeds ranging anywhere from .07-.17 kbps (once in a rare while at 3am I can get almost 500 kbps) and according to my ISP I can get "UP TO" 3 megs, which I've never been even close to. The guy blames the speed on my computer, which is complete crap because when I go to a friends house in another town my computer gets download speeds of 10 megs and up!
I don't want to start my own ISP company to compete with him or anything of that nature, I just want to have it for my own personal use. I am willing to make an investment if it will last me a lifetime. I do not wish to move to the big city, we like our small town because it is the perfect place to raise our son. What I don't like is my privacy being violated and being ripped off.
I'm a chick that can turn a wrench and I'm always looking to learn new things... So if anyone has any suggestions it would be very much appreciated.
Thank you.
I'm new and this may be a dumb question but here it goes anyway.
Is it possible for me to start my own personal ISP?
This is my situation... I live in a small town and we only have one ISP provider who not only price gouges us ( https://www.azci.net/order.htm )and gives us crappy service, but he also moniters what we do on the internet. I have actually recieved phone calls in the middle of the night from this man threatening to shut me down if I didn't stop viewing the page I was viewing on the internet. Let's just say he's rather "conservative".
Right now I'm paying $50 per month for download speeds ranging anywhere from .07-.17 kbps (once in a rare while at 3am I can get almost 500 kbps) and according to my ISP I can get "UP TO" 3 megs, which I've never been even close to. The guy blames the speed on my computer, which is complete crap because when I go to a friends house in another town my computer gets download speeds of 10 megs and up!
I don't want to start my own ISP company to compete with him or anything of that nature, I just want to have it for my own personal use. I am willing to make an investment if it will last me a lifetime. I do not wish to move to the big city, we like our small town because it is the perfect place to raise our son. What I don't like is my privacy being violated and being ripped off.
I'm a chick that can turn a wrench and I'm always looking to learn new things... So if anyone has any suggestions it would be very much appreciated.
Thank you.
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Permalink Reply by JT on -
You would need a server or 2 or 3 and also, I would think, a T1 from a telephone company.
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Permalink Reply by Stormy on -
Thanks for the replies... I'll have to look into it. What is considered a "nice" cpu? I wonder how much a server would cost.
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Permalink Reply by jake on -
ive got an x work server from my mums work
specs
3ghz intel xeon quad core processor 64bit
2gb ddr2 ram
it has currently 6 scsi hdds
but can hold 8
it has well server stuff
raid, satta
floppy drive
2x network ports
a seccond cpu slot that im gonna fill sometime
dual power supply
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Permalink Reply by IMPMAC on -
It will cost you quite a lot. And you dont just need a server, you need large cooling rooms. You probably need something like solaris or linux. T1 line (a dedicated internet line) installed, programmers, gateway setup, lots and lots of money!
I would say all of your neighbors come together and contact an existing good ISP and they will lay down new cables and you should get new service!
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Permalink Reply by Michael Wagner on -
You might want to google "broadband internet" and (your town). Quite often you can find some of the national isp's are available and just don't advertise in your area.
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Permalink Reply by Snick on -
To start your own ISP you need the following (and it's not all of it)
A backbone - via, AT&T, Internap, even Comcast(though may be more expensive) now - some type of bandwidth motivated network willing to help you route. Which will cost a fortune to have them install.
OR
You could probably invest in your states Internet, they would probably provide you with a DS-1(/3) connection. Although once again, that costs a lot. Probably $200/month and up, depending on the area. I've seen DSs (T1s) run $450/month standard before.
You need to be a registered IP Owner - Thus to distribute IPs (even if it's to yourself, or you can rent an IP. via an IP vendor.). To have your own IPs can be a long process. If you go the states way, they'd probably help you register all this information at once. But the first way is doing things separate (sort-of).
Misc:
You need to know about DNS/NS, *nix (Linux/Unix - Recommended).
Etc:
If you're thinking "Holy crap that's too much money" - Then you're probably better off sticking with the slow Internet even though it's a rip off. But, even so then, if you go THAT far to provide yourself with your own Internet, you could resell it. Then I suggest reporting this to the Government or ELSE! lol.
However, you'd be doing the same thing other ISPs do (well most), and that's overselling bandwidth. You *hope* that all of your customers won't use every bit of bandwidth on that node and congest the network.
You see, when people have cable Internet that is 8-10-20-30 mb download, that 8mb connection should really cost them $5,000+/month. But it doesn't, because they're actually buying from a stock, sharing bandwidth with others on the network. So your priority is lowered and you get ran over by others on the Internet (not noticeably). Take a T1, and Cable line, and the cable is "faster" - 95% of the time any URL you go to will come up faster on a T1 than it will a cable line; The T1 has higher priority - So it cost way more. Then you have your big-big fiber lines, 100mb-1gb-13gb lines (way out of most peoples price range).
anywho *stops self from going on*
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Permalink Reply by ck13 on -
thats alot of money for a t1, why not make this guy's life hell, contact BBB and any other groups, local media (about 10 years ago i dealt with an isp similar to this, because he was the only local number in dialup, just a real ass, and rip people off selling them used pc's that were ancient at the time for almost as much as buying a new one, till people started compaining to those higher up than in this town
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Permalink Reply by Stormy on
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Thanks for all of the info.
I am definately going to learn more about this. I found out there are loans that will fund this sort of thing.
I have thought about contacting the BBB but I'm afraid the guy will just cut me off. This is a small town operation, he doesn't really give a crap who thinks what of him. I could show you some emails between us and you'd be shocked at the way this man talks to me. If I don't have internet, I can't make money.
I think developing my own ISP is definately in my future, especially with the loans available for it... But I'm not going down that road until I educate myself a lot more about this.
Thanks for getting me in the right direction!!!
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Permalink Reply by Travicemo on -
I can't believe he is charging $180.00 for 15Mbps down. That is INSANE!
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Permalink Reply by Eric L. on -
I've got a question or two..... I haven't read everything on your posting but has anyone suggested Satallite Internet? I've seen the setup before but never actually surfed the net with it. But it's much faster than what your connecting at now and it's cheaper than what your paying. It may be something worth checking out... Don't know that it would help in your endevor to set up a server for the nieghborhood, but it would get you away from that guy that has his hand in your wallet. The link for pricing info is... http://www.satellitestarinternet.com/ I've got a couple other ideas, should you want to brain storm together or let me know what your thoughts are, my contact/chat info is on my profile page.
Good Luck
--Eric
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Permalink Reply by Countrysideflair on -
Satellite is awful for anything except email. It may be fast, but you are limited on how much you can download. One streamed NetFlix movie will literally erase the monthly alottment and they will either throttle you down to nothingness or you will be "fined" a ridiculous $10 per GB. At our home, we stream a lot through NetFlix and Hulu... we see monthly downloads upwards of 80 GB. With satellite, this would cost us $800+ a month plus the crazy setup fees.
So we just went with a T1 circuit. We have our own dedicated circuit ("no sharing bandwidth"), several static IPs, and it is always 1.544 Mb/s. Companies roll installation into the monthly fees and they do carry a term (ours is 3 years at $230/month). That is cheaper than my office rent, so I created a "home office", and we are now saving a lot of money and enjoying flawless internet access.
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